You are currently viewing Episode 089: Building Joy into Your Business with M. Shannon Hernandez and Amy Hager

On a scale of 1 to 5, how much joy is there in your working life? We have this idea of business as being grey and serious, don’t we? When you worked in corporate, there was an expectation of what your day looked like, how you would behave, what work would be like. And now you sell to corporates, you’re probably still following those same rules.

We get told all the way through school that we need to knuckle down and work hard. That narrative stays with us, doesn’t it? It’s almost as if we have this rule that says if something is enjoyable, that’s a hobby or not a ‘real’ business but if something makes money, that involves hard work.

And yet, when you run your own business, you are choosing what that looks like. You decide what your services are, who your clients are, what hours you work, how you make sales.

My guests on the podcast this week are M. Shannon Hernandez and Amy Hager who are both all about that joy in life and business. They are known around the globe for the Joyful Marketing Methodology. They work with online coaches and consultants, teaching them how to grow a highly profitable business that includes abundant time off.

We talk about:

  • How we often think our business needs to be hard work
  • Shifting your business model to create time, money and energy
  • Why we don’t allow ourselves joy and how to start bringing it into your business
  • What you’re doing with your time outside your business
  • What joy is


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